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topic posted Tue, November 29, 2005 - 3:30 PM by  Random
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Was that fun, or what?

Let me know whatchyall think!

-Random
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    Re: Wow

    Tue, November 29, 2005 - 9:57 PM
    Had a great time. I was the guy wearing the "Punisher" t-shirt. In fact, had a better time than the one back in June. It was a more mixed crowd this time instead of only the fetish/leather crowd. Also the music was better.

    It would be awesome if this morphed into a monthly event. I think there is a demand for it given how I saw some more mainstream types peaking in to check it out. I guess it depends how important it is to stick close to the industrial/fetish roots.

    There's plenty of parties out there that cater to bi women, but virtually none that are tolerant/encouraging of bi men.

    thanks
    R
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      Tue, November 29, 2005 - 10:11 PM
      Thanks, R*ss, for providing me with a lot of constructive feedback.

      I'm still a bit timid about doing a monthly. To be honest, with the expenses I broke even last Friday and I need to to better than that. And that's with 220+ people. I'll consider closing down the upstairs dance floor (the Eighties music) but I'd rather not. I guess I just need the help of y'all to get the numbers up just a bit.

      So - help!

      -Random
      • Re: Wow

        Wed, November 30, 2005 - 1:00 PM
        How about *bi*-monthly...

        okay, cheesy, but still more cost effective. Also, I couldn't make it because of the holiday weekend, dammit, and I'm sure the attendance was affected by others being out of town and general post-holiday stuff. I know there's never a weekend that is completely out of competition with other hot events, but holidays are tough...
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          Fri, December 2, 2005 - 4:07 PM
          <grin>

          Do you think it would take something away from the specialness of the event and the draw if it was that often?

          -Random
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        Thu, December 1, 2005 - 1:37 PM
        When you say you broke even do you mean at the bar or the after party? I didnt make it to the after party myself so I dont know how populated it was or what went on.
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          Thu, December 1, 2005 - 2:48 PM
          After both, actually. Hey, don't get me wrong, I'd rather break even than lose money and I'm optimistic about its growth.

          The afterparty was a hoot and quite, ahem, intimate. We'll definitely be doing that again. It's actually possible that we may use the entire venue that the afterparty was held at (not just part of it) for the next Fencesitters.

          Anyone out there want to let me know how the afterparty went for them? I got a little occupied and missed a fair chunk out of the middle of it...

          -Random
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            Thu, December 1, 2005 - 8:05 PM
            Huh...I stuck around the after party until about 4 and didn't see anything especially noteworthy going on. Mostly people talking and sobering up.

            The after party was OK, depending on what one hoped to get from it. It was sold to me as a play party and unless I didn't stick around long enough it certainly did not live up to that marketing. The venue doesn't facilitate that because there was very few places to get comfortable. The Mission Control venue is much more appropriate for that purpose.

            In terms of just a hang out spot, it was fine, and the price was reasonable. I enjoyed the porn, but I think others were a little uneasy.
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              Fri, December 2, 2005 - 11:00 AM
              Good comments.

              Um, I definitely did some playing just not in the main room. The original idea was to use the other side of the venue which is *much* more play friendly but the owner upped the rent on us at the last minute so we were forced to use the smaller side.

              We were going for a more adventurous vibe but if people didn't feel like playing that out then oh well.

              Anybody have any of the absinthe?

              -Random
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    Fri, December 2, 2005 - 10:43 AM
    First time at one of these. I had a good time, but the energy for me was off. I like events with a real queer energy, lots of bi or actually queer peeps, not just couples cruizing for a third or a paymate for one of the partners.

    It was fun, but not sure I'd attend again, unless I went with some of my more strait friends who were bi-curious.
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      Fri, December 2, 2005 - 10:54 AM
      friendly_jen,

      Could you recommend places we should be promoting that would get more of the people you'd like to see there?

      -Random
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        Re: Wow

        Fri, December 2, 2005 - 11:34 AM
        Random's comment on the after party - I guess the play began after I left. I'll stick around longer next time.

        Friendly_jen - Not sure how couples looking for a 3-way partner is not "actually bi"...I guess you and I want different things...I feel like there's plenty of well established venues and parties for people who fall somewhere between bi and homo, but very few for the str8-ish to bi range.

        I did see the people you were talking about...yuppie types who were cruising/checking things out but didn't stick around for the whole event. Perhaps that's what bothered you? That behavior does change the vibe...if not eough people are "part of" the party but just checking it out...

        Have you been to ShadowPlay? I think its in the Castro area and much more of a queer vibe...

        Personally, what I am looking for is something like PleasureZone that is accepting of both bi women and bi men with a slightly harder edge to it...electro, industrial, tech house, some fetish clothing D&s, but not the really hardcore S&M people...that doesn't exist though so I kinda float between both scenes. :)
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          Mon, December 5, 2005 - 9:05 AM
          >Friendly_jen - Not sure how couples looking for a 3-way >partner is not "actually bi"...I guess you and I want different >things...

          I guess I kinda mispoke. It's not that I think couples looking for a 3 way isn't actually bi, it just adds more of a 'swinger' vibe which can make an event seem kinda cheap and sleazy to me. I've been to events tho there people looking for a threesome has more of a poly feel VS a swinger feel and for me that's more desirable. Although I can see how this might be difficult to muster while still keeping the 'edge' you speak of. Admittedly it's this 'edge' that attracted me to the event in the first place but didn't find it as edgy as I'd expected.

          And your right about it being the yuppie types being the real crux of my discomfort. But you get that everywhere.
  • Re: Wow

    Tue, December 6, 2005 - 1:02 PM
    I'm sorry I missed this event but I really liked the others I've been to. Random you rock. And I would like to echo the sentiments above. Queerer is betterer, but I must admit the last one I did attend ended with 3 of us at PE. After hours play without travel is ideal. I know the sexual tourists that such an event can attract can make some uncomfortable. Personaly they don't bother me too much. But I see the concerne. I hope to catch the next one...

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